On Sun, 2 Jul 2023 11:22:50 CST
Post by Rayner LucasPost by rek2 hispagatosI was the original poster, I got ton of support but never had anyone
tell me next steps or where to do anything :(
The next step is in the link from your original post. You need
https://www.big-8.org/wiki/How_to_Create_a_New_Big-8_Newsgroup
There is an RFD template here (see the section "A Newsgroup Creation
https://www.big-
8.org/wiki/Content_and_Format_of_a_Request_for_Discussion_(RFD)
- news.announce.newgroups
- news.groups.proposals
- any other newsgroups where there are people who are likely to be
interested in the proposed group.
Set followups to news.groups.proposals (if you do not know how to do
this in your newsreader software, please ask).
People can then reply in news.groups.proposals to support or oppose
the new group, or to offer feedback on the proposal.
Regards,
Rayner
For heaven's sake, just create the group. It's not like people are
asking for new groups every day.
Aside from mentally deranged trolls, psyop spam, and warez and movie
pirates, there's approximately six or seven dozen dedicated users of
the whole Usenet. This bureaucracy is unnecessary in the current
circumstance.
Here comes a brain tornado:
The Usenet 'kumoonitay' could add a new, user-managed hierarchy, aptly
named ... da dunt dunt dunt ...
user.*
ISC could add an extension to the NNTP protocol that allows clients to
create user-managed groups in the new user.* hierarchy. The
client-moderator creates the group with a cryptographic signature key
and it is all automated with no need of human or administrator
interaction.
If you are worried about a spammer mounting a flood attack with group
creation, build a proof-of-work verification into the protocol
extension and require 3 or 5 peers in good standing to approve for
the proposed group to propagate automatically.
The person holding the user group key can sign sub-moderator keys for
message moderation and revoke them at will. Then we'd never need to see
another RFD again, except for the news.* hierarchy for system
administration stuff. Moderation would be strictly by signature with no
email forwarding necessary. If a valid signature command propagates,
then it shall be done as the signature commandeth.
This old way of doing things made sense back in the days of 9600 baud
dialup and UUCP. It serves no real purpose now. A $100/yr. VPS can
handle an entire text Usenet feed with a 3-5 year history. Who cares if
there are another 50 or 100 thousand orphan groups created by users?
The file to list them would take at most 4-6 MB of disk space. The list
can be auto-pruned after a period of inactivity. The protocol extension
could serve the groups list by query keyword or 3+ char substring
instead of the whole list at once.
Administrators can decide whether or not to allow such feeds on their
servers or whether they deal with the extension at all.
IMHO torturing these poor users with endless back and forth about
arcane and ancient bureaucracy just to create a group is just a
technocratic form of digital child abuse at the hands of hippie boomer
geeks. The procedural response is no longer proportionate to the
situation or the current technology.
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